nations ambassador, susan rice. >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job that she's done. [applause] gwen: by the way, that was hillary clinton who started that round of applause around the cabinet table. but if they're applauding on capitol hill, they're doing it very quietly, as republican senators make their doubts known loud and clear. at issue -- rice's role in providing a preliminary and ultimately incorrect explanation of the circumstances surrounding the attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi, in libya, that resulted to the death of four americans including the u.s. ambassador. >> bottom line -- i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think does not do justice to the reality at the time, and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. but here's the key -- in real time it was a statement disconnected from reality. gwen: back to our original question, gloria, which we asked about the fiscal cliff, which is, how muc